You come to a genuine full stop at a stop sign, but well past the stop line. Is that a lesser offence than not stopping at all?
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Correct answer: C. No — stopping in the wrong place is its own offence under the same subsection, with the same $85 set fine
No — Ontario charges them separately and prices them the same. Schedule 43 lists two offences under Highway Traffic Act section 136(1)(a): "Disobey stop sign — stop wrong place" and "Disobey stop sign — fail to stop", each carrying a set fine of $85.00 outside a community safety zone. The reason stopping in the wrong place is treated as seriously as not stopping is that it produces the same result — a vehicle sitting in the crosswalk or nosed into the intersection, where pedestrians have to walk around it and cross traffic has to steer around it. Section 136(1)(a) sets the place precisely: at a marked stop line if there is one, otherwise immediately before the nearest crosswalk, otherwise immediately before entering the intersection.
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